Auburn man’s anti-military statements draw reaction

Auburn man’s anti-military statements draw reaction

Associated Press

This undated photo provided by the Chiroux family shows Matthis Chiroux, an Army sergeant from Alabama, right, and his father Robert Chiroux.  Chiroux refused to deploy to Iraq.

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Emotions are running high after Auburn native and antiwar activist Matthis Chiroux likened the U.S. Army to the Fourth Reich and accused it of encouraging fear, racism and sexism.

“When you hear somebody compare our military to the Fourth Reich, you kind of realize that this guy isn’t really worth listening to,” said Janine Babbitt, whose husband Maj. Erich Babbitt, an active duty Army National Guard member, has been deployed in Afghanistan for about a week.

Chiroux, who made headlines a year ago when he refused a deployment to Iraq, made his most recent comments during a service at the Auburn Unitarian Universalist Fellowship Sunday.

An Opelika-Auburn News story about the event published Monday has attracted nearly 60 comments as of Wednesday night from people on both sides of the issue.

“It made me feel embarrassed and sad, not only that he’s a representative of Auburn, but that he’s serving with the military and he would have this stand with our military and country,” Babbitt said.

Her husband has been part of the military for the past 15 years, she said.

“This is our first deployment and we have nothing but great things to say about the Army,” she said. “You’re hoping that you are striving for a greater good and a greater cause and to have peace. He (Erich) volunteered because he felt like it was his turn to serve his country.”

Janine points out that America has a volunteer Army, and that it was Matthis Chiroux’s choice to join.

“We’re not drafted in this military, we volunteer to join it,” she said. “This gentleman, Matthis Chiroux, he obviously has the right to say what he wants to say because we live in a free county … We live in a free county because of the men and women who have fought to make it a free country.”
U.S. Army Capt. David Van Horn, an Alabama National Reservist and full time AGR soldier who returned from Iraq last year, and Robert Chiroux, Matthis’ father, are among those who took exception to Chiroux’s statements.

Van Horn said Matthis Chiroux is entitled to say what he wants, that it is a free country, but that being deployed in combat in Iraq is different from deployment as an Army journalist.

Van Horn said his men saw action about every other day in Iraq, and they were going “over the wire” almost every day while deployed.

“What this guy is pitching is the ugly American,” Van Horn said. “He would be pitching this if there was a cold war or a hot war. I would warn strongly against people buying into anything that hasn’t been seen first hand. Until you’ve been there, you’re not going to know.”

Sunday, Matthis said he was taught how to kill by the Army.

Van Horn said every soldier goes through basic training, whether he’s going to be in combat or not.

“Everybody has to have the basic skills to be a rifleman in a pinch,” he said. “He got the standard training everyone gets. If he got overrun he’d know how to shoot a rifle.”

While in Iraq, Van Horn said he and his men did not take part in intimidation tactics with locals. He said they tried to do right by them, including providing Iraqis with medical support, shoes and supplies.

He said having good relationships with Iraqis made his men safer.

“The army is not trying to make criminals out of people. It falls on deaf ears for someone like me who’s been out there and run the road and seen it. American soldiers aren’t built to be terroristic… It’s not who we are as people. My guys are too damn good,” Van Horn said.

Van Horn said what Matthis Chiroux said is “between him and his God and his honor.”

Matthis’ father, Robert Chiroux, Ph.D, is also speaking out. In his talk Sunday, Matthis accused his father of physical and emotional abuse. Robert denies the allegations.

“I will remain silent no longer. I respect free speech and the right to peaceably protest, but I seriously doubt my son’s convictions to the anti-war movement or any other cause except where he can profit from it. I am disappointed with my son and the effect this has had on our family…Our family does not condone Matthis’ rhetoric and would caution anyone who might consider providing him financial assistance,” his father said in a statement provided to the Opelika-Auburn News.

Sunday, Matthis admitted that tangles with law enforcement as a juvenile landed him in jail and subsequently in the Army. Matthis contends he did not a have choice in the matter, but his father said otherwise.

In his statement, Robert Chiroux said, “My days as his custodial parent ended when after yet another infraction Matthis and I met with his probation officer and an army recruiter whom I had invited.
Matthis choices were laid out for him and he did not hesitate in his choice to join the army. He was, in fact, quite glib.”

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Flag Comment Posted by doc131 on July 26, 2009 at 8:03 pm

I couldn’t help but make this simple observation:
In the OA news’s latest photo, Mr Chiroux seems to be wearing an “Iraq War veterans against the War” T- shirt. This strikes me as unusual considering that, as the t-shirt suggests, the wearer has to have ACTUALLY SERVED in Iraq.

Flag Comment Posted by sheree on July 21, 2009 at 7:39 pm

When I wrote this comment, I was angered, and outraged by the comments that he spoke.  Its ok to be anti-war, who isn’t?  I was when my daughter got deployed the first time (she has been 6 times), but just say you do not want to go back, request a discharge.  Please do not speak of our country like you have, nor speak of our military with such disrespect.  After I read what his father wrote, my heart hurts for this lost child, and his parents. 
Everyone needs to read this, and I am sure you will feel the same way, this young man is lost. http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=12418

Flag Comment Posted by americangenie on July 20, 2009 at 8:48 pm

Completely off topic, but I’ve noticed a trend so I’m just checking.

If I mention that the criminal in the White house is a usurper on this thread, will the OA News delete this letter and comments as well as the previous two that I mentioned it on recently?

Is Media General tightening the reins?

How do you people sleep at night?

God bless America!

Flag Comment Posted by sheree on July 20, 2009 at 12:38 pm

Matthis Chiroux, my first question is why did you join the serve anyway?  Instead of trying to make a name for your self in the newspaper, why do you not make a name for your self by community serve, donation of your time to the american Red Cross or something.
I can tell you it is your right to object to the war, not wanting to go to Iraq, I understand, but the freedom you have; to voice your opinion is what our Military provides for you.  What I would like to see you do, go to Iraq,Pakistan, or Afghanstan and voice your opinions in the streets or in their paper.  You would be shot on sight, not that I wish that for you, but…you are a disgrace to our military, my daughter being in the military, it is a honor to her to be able to protect the American citizens.  I think you need to go to your recruiters, request a dishonorable discharge.  This way you can never own land, purchase a firearm, or vote, I do not believe you deserve any rights that our Military so proudly provide to even YOU!

Flag Comment Posted by NativeAL on July 13, 2009 at 5:26 am

Looks like Matthis and Robert are still verbally duking it out at that milblog;

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=12418

Flag Comment Posted by americangenie on July 12, 2009 at 5:46 am

Posted by ( dorake ) on July 12, 2009 at 1:00 am

“Matthis Chiroux….Thank you for taking a stand for real freedom…“

Matthis is taking a stand for himself & for no other reason.

It’s really sad that so many don’t know the history of this country, but inexcusable that they cannot remember history as fresh as the beginning of the latest war in Iraq.

No one ever said this war had anything to do with 9/11.  This war was to remove a tyrannical leader who at the time was threatening the whole world with WMD. 

Those who say it is about stealing resources are pathetically ignorant.

Matthis was wrong, is wrong and takes hypocrisy to levels rarely seen in someone so young.

I pray he gets just what he deserves.

God bless America!

Flag Comment Posted by dorake on July 12, 2009 at 12:00 am

Matthis Chiroux….Thank you for taking a stand for real freedom ...all the loud mouths on this form should be in Iraq themselves instead of castigating you for telling the truth… the military is a big business and the pawns used to make the money for the industrial defense complex are too damn stupid to understand that they are fight for profit not for freedom… not one Iraqi was among those who took part in the staged 911 attack on the WTC and Pentagon… but the morons among us were lied into thinking Iraq had something to do with 911… what a crock… no one has a right to criticize you especially the loud mouth forum monger who are not themselves in the fight… anyone speaking out against the holy military is tarred and feathered.. never mind the millions of innocent Iraqis and 10’s of thousand of Afghan’s who have been murdered by the US military.. I stand with you 100% ...you served your country and deserve ever benefit becoming a veteran of the US military ....keep speaking out and let the redrooster’s and his types choke on their own venom.


FREEDOM is not killing to steal another countries natural resources…

Flag Comment Posted by nonesuch on July 10, 2009 at 8:00 pm

JosephH, that’s all fine and dandy if that is what you believe, but if Matthis TRULY rejects all things military, then should he not reject the money he is taking from the Army, to continue his education?  To continue to draw from his G.I. benefits smacks of hypocrisy.

IF you lie with dogs, you get fleas, so be very careful, those who chose to side with the so called “antiwar activist” Matthis Chiroux.

Flag Comment Posted by NativeAL on July 10, 2009 at 9:21 am

Well, look what I found - apparently Matthis’ father isn’t taking this lying down anymore. He’s started posting to a milblog in DC;

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=12418

Flag Comment Posted by redrooster on July 10, 2009 at 8:37 am

Matthis, when it’s all said and done - and no matter how much money you sponge off the sheep who believe you - you’re still a criminal and a leech; a pseudo-man without a family.  Enjoy it while you can.  It won’t last.

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