Labor Department reports drop in unemployment claims

Labor Department reports drop in unemployment claims

Associated Press

In this Oct. 27, 2009 photo, job seekers line up in front of a Dollar General booth at a Little Rock, Ark., job fair. The number of newly laid-off workers filing claims for unemployment benefits fell more than expected last week to the lowest level in over a year.

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WASHINGTON — In a hopeful sign for the economy, the number of newly laid-off workers filing claims for unemployment benefits fell below 500,000 last week for the first time since January.

Consumer spending also picked up in October, and new-home sales hit their highest point in more than a year. Combined, the news suggested that the economy should be able to sustain at least a modest rebound. Some economists have worried that the economy was at risk of slipping back into recession.

The number of people filing first-time claims for jobless aid fell by 35,000 to 466,000, the Labor Department said Wednesday. That was the fewest since September of last year. And it was far better than the 500,000 economists had expected.

Still, analysts noted that jobless claims would have to drop to near 400,000 for several weeks to signal actual growth in employment.

Economists estimate the economy will lose a net 145,000 jobs this month. It would have to add 125,000 jobs a month just to keep the unemployment rate from rising.

Some economists sounded cautionary notes about Wednesday’s positive news. They say the sluggish recovery could limit further improvements in jobless claims, new-home sales and consumer spending, which powers 70 percent of the economy.

“When taken all together, the reports still paint a picture of a slow economic recovery,” said Mark Vitner, an economist at Wells Fargo.

One such sign was that orders for costly manufactured goods fell unexpectedly last month. Much of October’s weakness came from a big drop for goods related to defense. Excluding those, orders for other types of manufactured goods rose slightly. Still, the overall performance was weaker than economists had expected.

Some analysts also cautioned against reading too much into the sharp drop in unemployment claims. They noted that part of the improvement reflected large seasonal adjustment factors, which smooth out changes that normally occur at certain times of the year. Excluding seasonal adjustments, claims rose. That’s normal at this time of year when many construction workers face layoffs because of worsening weather conditions.

Most economists say the recovery will remain so weak and job creation so slight that the unemployment rate will keep rising. Many think the rate, which hit a 26-year high of 10.2 percent in October, could top 10.5 percent by mid-2010. Federal Reserve policymakers expressed concern at their November meeting that the rate could remain elevated for several years, according to minutes of the discussions released Tuesday.

Analysts also noted that the surge in new-home sales was driven entirely by a 23 percent increase in the South. Sales in all other regions fell.

Still, taken together, the reports on jobless claims, consumer spending and home sales were encouraging, and stock prices rose in light volume on Wall Street.

New jobless claims dropped below 500,000 for the first time since the first week in January. Weekly claims peaked at 674,000 in March and have since been trending lower.

Consumer spending rose a 0.7 percent last month, following 0.6 percent drop in September, the Commerce Department said. It was the best showing since a big 1.3 percent jump in August when the government’s now-defunct Cash for Clunkers programs enticed people to buy cars.

Incomes, the fuel for future spending, rose 0.2 percent for the second straight month.

Consumers spent more on costly “durable” manufactured goods — such as cars and appliances. Such spending rose 2.1 percent. They also boosted spending last month on “nondurables,” including food and clothes, and on services.

Wednesday’s figures seemed to blunt some fears that consumers could clam up, sending the country into a “double dip” recession. Yet concerns remain that consumer spending will slow early next year.

With spending outpacing income growth, Americans’ personal savings rate — savings as a percentage of after-tax income — dipped to 4.4 percent in October from 4.6 percent in September.

Personal income from interest came to an annualized $1.23 trillion, ticking up 0.5 percent from September. People who rely on interest from savings, such as money in certificates of deposit, have been seeing their income fall for months, raising doubts about their ability to spend.

New-home sales rose 6.2 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 430,000 from an upwardly revised 405,000 in September. Economists had expected a pace of 410,000. Home shoppers were acting before lawmakers decided this month to extend a tax credit for first-time buyers and expand it to some existing homeowners.

Much of October’s weakness in durable-goods orders came from an 18.4 percent drop in orders for goods related to defense. Excluding those, orders for other types of manufactured goods rose 0.4 percent in October, after a 1.8 percent rise in September.

Orders for electrical equipment, commercial airplanes and parts, primary metals — including steel — and fabricated metals all rose last month. Orders for cars, machinery, computers and communications equipment fell.

A drop of 190,000 in the number of people continuing to claim jobless aid marked the 10th consecutive decline, leaving it at 5.42 million, the lowest level since the week of Feb. 28. The continuing claims figure, though, does not include millions who have used up the regular 26 weeks of benefits typically provided by states and are receiving extended benefits for up to 73 additional weeks.

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Flag Comment Posted by dsg on December 08, 2009 at 10:16 am

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More realistic #s

Flag Comment Posted by James Staunton on November 30, 2009 at 5:22 pm

MPB3-  Still vamping for the new world order?  Funny that I wasn’t banned by the forum.  Harrassing Communications law is Federal—better call the FBI.  I’m sure the nice policeman realized you were just a legend in your own mind…

Surely YOU appreciate that P-Bo is sinking like the Titanic.  Even the fake jobs numbers don’t lie; and the support for the fake climate change tax should be a real hoot to watch…

This board hasn’t changed much while I have been off doing my 6 month thing.  Neither you, nor any of your self-appointed thought police have had ANYTHING on topic to say.  You come on here just to personally attack anyone you disagree with.  A true bigot…

It’s really too bad that you don’t travel more and get a chance to see what socialism and true poverty are all about.  Just a peek at where world socialism would take this country.  Even the poorest Americans are rich by comparison.  There are no fat poor people in the third world…

You would want to try to help them all; raise them up.  But you quickly realize the weight of their numbers makes this a fools errand.

I think many on here would be amused to hear what the average African on the dirt path has to say about his American cousins.  You, on the other hand, would probably just have something hateful to say.

How’s that hope and change working out for you?

Flag Comment Posted by mpb3 on November 30, 2009 at 3:25 pm

I go out of town for one week and now I see the whole OA News comments section is to be ruined again!  Why are you back after all this time Staunton?  I did file a police report against you.  After showing the officer all of your posts, he agreed that you were violating the terms of this Web site and were in violation of the Harrassing Communications law.  Tread lightly, man. 

As to all my other good people on this thread, it is of no use trying to talk or reason with Staunton.  He will stew in his hatred until it kills him, and he’ll take down anyone he can with him. Ignoring his kind of hateful rhetoric is the best.

HBD-Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!  A liberal…ha ha, that one had me laughing too! You are a very good person HB, even if you are a conservative!  wink

Flag Comment Posted by James Staunton on November 28, 2009 at 8:30 pm

hbd1932-  I can assure you that I don’t care who you are or who you voted for.

You come on here totally off topic attacking my opinion and me personally with some stupid info given to you by your liberal friends.  I just look at the company you keep and I can tell who you are.

You don’t know much of anything about me, whatever your wife thinks of you.

Dowdell is a misguided racist…  I agree that he is pathetic, but he IS representative of those he purports to lead.

The end of your post makes no sense to me at all…  You must be having a TIA.

Please don’t educate me about how to post here.  What a joke defending MPB3—Mia can defend herself.

Let me educate you about racism…

If 90% of whites had voted for McCain, because Obama is black, that would have been racism.  If 90% of blacks voted for Obama because Obama is black, then that also IS RACISM.

The fact is there was no other reason to vote for Obama.  He is the most unexperienced, ignorant, arrogant and dangerous President we have EVER had.  Our nation and our Liberty is in great danger.  But alas, you got the economy you voted for.  I know it’s tough on a lot of people, but elections have consequences.  You voted for a lie, so now you have to live under the lie.

Personally, I can see what is happening to the economy, and have positioned myself to profit greatly from it. 

By next summer, the Federal Government will be insolvent and unable to borrow.  ALL Federal payments will cease.  The Dollar will be worthless, breadlines will form and the unemployed will riot and set the cities on fire.  Obama will leave his party to have a meeting to discuss the riots.  My gold holdings will be about $3,000 an ounce by then.  Yep, life is good up on the hill…

Flag Comment Posted by hbd1932 on November 28, 2009 at 7:17 pm

James, I’ve been called many things in my life… never a liberal. My wife has been laughing ever since you said I was a liberal. She said, “You a liberal, Ha Ha Ha”. Which tells me much about you.

I have voted for Reagan, Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain, and anyone who runs against Obama. Man, only liberals will vote against Dems. smile

As for as AL Dowdell is concerned, he his pathetic as well.

BTW, that mansion on the hill, well ... will depart from your fingers. I give you my word… my good doctor.

The first shall be last…

Flag Comment Posted by James Staunton on November 28, 2009 at 5:52 pm

To hbd1932 “During the AL Dowdell fiasco you made a reference to violence against mpb3”

This statement is just plain false.  It was false when it was made last may and it is just silly now.

Funny how you liberals (and you are) didn’t have any respect for the office when George W. Bush was president.  What an embarassing hypocrite you are.

The fact is, NONE of my remarks here have been racist.  “Lyin’ African” is descriptive of the man.  He is a bald faced, world class liar and he is of African descent.  I could have used “Lyin’ Hawaiian”, I guess.  Supposedly he was born in Hawaii. (yeah, right…)

You and the other “race experts” just lurk here all day waiting to be offended.  One after one you come on here and make NO comment about the topic.  Your whole purpose here is to attack others, not to advance any debate.

The “racist game” only works on those who give a damn.  If you think my opinion makes me a racist, then that’s your opinion…

Oooooo he called me a RACIST!!  I shore am skeered now!!  I’d better RUN, now!!  Racism will be making a BIG comeback soon, just wait for next summer’s riots.

Need I remind all you bigots that you do not own this forum.  You’ll just have to live with the embarassment of my posts.

Fortunately I enjoy it when you guys throw the race card.  That tells me that you have no REAL arguments. 

Go ahead and attack all you want… I’m a big boy, and life is pretty fine up here in the mansion on the hill.

Flag Comment Posted by hbd1932 on November 28, 2009 at 4:42 pm

James Staunton- You are indeed over the top in your racist views. Not only the “lying African” quote but in earlier of the year posts. During the AL Dowdell fiasco you made a reference to violence against mpb3 during the debates.

Now I disagree with mpb3 on almost all subjects, but she is entitled to her beliefs as you and I and I respect her and her beliefs.

I am a conservative who has respect for Pres. Obama’s office, not his beliefs. I do feel his policies are hurtful to America’s foundation and may lead to socialism in my opinion.

However, using racial and violent connotations only hurts your views and hinders thoughtful and friendly debate.

We, those of us on the left and right of the OA News debate “family and friends”, denounce your views as hurtful to the rest of us.

I am a conservative, who dislikes Pres. Obama’s policies, but who also enjoy’s the company and debate of my liberal friends, Capt Plaid and mpb3.

Therefore, be respectful or otherwise move on to greener pastures. A heated debate is OK, as long as it is respectful.

Flag Comment Posted by pd3310 on November 28, 2009 at 2:20 pm

James Staunton:  See my comments below.  I rest my case.  You sir, are an embarrassment to everyone!

Flag Comment Posted by James Staunton on November 28, 2009 at 2:10 pm

pd3310-  Why, what a hateful bigot you are, sir!!

Liberal rules:

1) If you can’t defeat the message, personally attack the messenger.

2) ANY critisism of P-Bo is just racism.

3) Be OFFENDED by any opinion you disagree with and if you are too ignorant to understand it Cry “RACISM” and “Burn the racist”!!

4) If the stats don’t support your position (ie unemployment or climate change) JUST LIE ABOUT IT!!  The toady press will never check it out.

How’s that hope and change working out for you, dolt…

Flag Comment Posted by pd3310 on November 28, 2009 at 11:40 am

James Staunton:  You’re a poor, ignorant fool….not only for what you say, but for using this forum to spout your racist beliefs.  If you could actually be able to form a thought on your own perhaps somebody might care to listen.  But the typical, party-line jibberish that you hear on the radio and repeat in your comments add absolutley nothing to an intellectual discussion on any subject.  Quite frankly, if there was a governmental action that would drive you over a cliff, I would applaud it, for this world would surely be better off with one less racist.  I do feel sorry for you….you are a pitiful excuse for a human being!

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